08 Viper Heads/Cam vs SlowVette

that vid is so fuckni funny lmao

Here is another one the gearing on the viper SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Z06 has a taller final drive

Viper:

Tremec TR6060 6-Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.07:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.66:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.78:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.3:1
4th Gear Ratio 1:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.74:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.5:1

Z06:

Tremec 6 Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.42:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.66:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.78:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.3:1
4th Gear Ratio 1:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.74:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.5:1

menaceEVO wrote:

u should.. bt hay i waz close enough 790 either way if u had spray u would have yanked that viper thats wat ppl dnt get..and u can drive another good reason why ppl shouldnt talk shit.....and yo victory wit the red vette u proved a point and on this website ppl are gunna talk shit jus do it bak its funny..and welcome

THX man

when you say TALLER, people refer to the fact that the actual gear is bigger physically.

whe the gear is bigger, it is NUMBERICALLY SMALLER.

So, the viper will stay in the gear longer/per REV than the z06.

you welcome bra do you go to the spot saturdayz or wensdays.. that video wit the chinesse kid is mad funnt..

NorySS wrote:

when you say TALLER, people refer to the fact that the actual gear is bigger physically.

whe the gear is bigger, it is NUMBERICALLY SMALLER.

So, the viper will stay in the gear longer/per REV than the z06.

In addition to changing the direction of power flow by 90 degrees (from the driveshaft to the axles), the purpose of the rearend gears is to multiply the torque delivered by the engine and transmission. Gears can be thought of as complex levers. In other words, they provide a mechanical advantage that multiplies work--in this case, torque--to help the engine's power move the vehicle. Lower gears are like a longer lever: They provide more mechanical advantage. Higher gears are like a shorter lever: They provide less mechanical advantage. It's similar to when you use a long breaker bar instead of a short ratchet handle to remove tight lug nuts. Just like a long bar puts more torque on a lug nut, lower axle gears provide more torque to the wheels.

It's very easy to calculate the torque multiplication provided by your axle gears--just multiply by the gear ratio. For example, let's assume that the engine and transmission are delivering 100 lb-ft of torque to the pinion gear. If the gear ratio of the ring-and-pinion is 4.10:1, then the output torque is 410 lb-ft (100x4.10). Similarly, if the gear ratio is 3.08:1, then the output torque will be 308 lb-ft. It's easy to see that the lower 4.10:1 gears put more power to the ground than the higher 3.08:1 gears. Keep in mind that the engine's power has not changed but that the available torque to the tires has.

C apish?

NorySS wrote:

when you say TALLER, people refer to the fact that the actual gear is bigger physically.

whe the gear is bigger, it is NUMBERICALLY SMALLER.

So, the viper will stay in the gear longer/per REV than the z06.

thats how i felt when i ran him. i shifted before him.

oh boy someone is getting technical with nory not a good idea!!!!!!!

maybe i should post up this vid on viperalley and see what they say...

victory2k8z wrote:

Here is another one the gearing on the viper SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Z06 has a taller final drive

Viper:

Tremec TR6060 6-Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.07:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.66:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.78:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.3:1
4th Gear Ratio 1:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.74:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.5:1

Z06:

Tremec 6 Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.42:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.66:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.78:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.3:1
4th Gear Ratio 1:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.74:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.5:1

as much as i hate that dude....what you just said isnt correct bro.
if the above is true the Viper should have a more top end...Depending on where each car redlines
if the both redline at 7rpms and the Z06 in fourth gear can do 170mph that viper should be able to do about 190 at 7000rpms
WITH SAME SIZE TIRE

go down to the gear calculator

Slow Vette wrote:

maybe i should post up this vid on viperalley and see what they say...

NITROUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS they will scream it from the mountain tops

victory2k8z wrote:

NorySS wrote:

when you say TALLER, people refer to the fact that the actual gear is bigger physically.

whe the gear is bigger, it is NUMBERICALLY SMALLER.

So, the viper will stay in the gear longer/per REV than the z06.

In addition to changing the direction of power flow by 90 degrees (from the driveshaft to the axles), the purpose of the rearend gears is to multiply the torque delivered by the engine and transmission. Gears can be thought of as complex levers. In other words, they provide a mechanical advantage that multiplies work--in this case, torque--to help the engine's power move the vehicle. Lower gears are like a longer lever: They provide more mechanical advantage. Higher gears are like a shorter lever: They provide less mechanical advantage. It's similar to when you use a long breaker bar instead of a short ratchet handle to remove tight lug nuts. Just like a long bar puts more torque on a lug nut, lower axle gears provide more torque to the wheels.

It's very easy to calculate the torque multiplication provided by your axle gears--just multiply by the gear ratio. For example, let's assume that the engine and transmission are delivering 100 lb-ft of torque to the pinion gear. If the gear ratio of the ring-and-pinion is 4.10:1, then the output torque is 410 lb-ft (100x4.10). Similarly, if the gear ratio is 3.08:1, then the output torque will be 308 lb-ft. It's easy to see that the lower 4.10:1 gears put more power to the ground than the higher 3.08:1 gears. Keep in mind that the engine's power has not changed but that the available torque to the tires has.

C apish?

another thing, swapping gears do not effect dyno numbers..

V6Chris wrote:

victory2k8z wrote:

Here is another one the gearing on the viper SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Z06 has a taller final drive

Viper:

Tremec TR6060 6-Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.07:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.66:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.78:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.3:1
4th Gear Ratio 1:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.74:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.5:1

Z06:

Tremec 6 Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.42:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.66:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.78:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.3:1
4th Gear Ratio 1:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.74:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.5:1

as much as i hate that dude....what you just said isnt correct bro.
if the above is true the Viper should have a more top end...Depending on where each car redlines
if the both redline at 7rpms and the Z06 in fourth gear can do 170mph that viper should be able to do about 190 at 7000rpms
WITH SAME SIZE TIRE

go down to the gear calculator

The viper has the gear to achive a higer top end, yet there is alot more to it...weight, aero, power band, tire diameter...all these factors make a difference

V6Chris wrote:

victory2k8z wrote:

NorySS wrote:

when you say TALLER, people refer to the fact that the actual gear is bigger physically.

whe the gear is bigger, it is NUMBERICALLY SMALLER.

So, the viper will stay in the gear longer/per REV than the z06.

In addition to changing the direction of power flow by 90 degrees (from the driveshaft to the axles), the purpose of the rearend gears is to multiply the torque delivered by the engine and transmission. Gears can be thought of as complex levers. In other words, they provide a mechanical advantage that multiplies work--in this case, torque--to help the engine's power move the vehicle. Lower gears are like a longer lever: They provide more mechanical advantage. Higher gears are like a shorter lever: They provide less mechanical advantage. It's similar to when you use a long breaker bar instead of a short ratchet handle to remove tight lug nuts. Just like a long bar puts more torque on a lug nut, lower axle gears provide more torque to the wheels.

It's very easy to calculate the torque multiplication provided by your axle gears--just multiply by the gear ratio. For example, let's assume that the engine and transmission are delivering 100 lb-ft of torque to the pinion gear. If the gear ratio of the ring-and-pinion is 4.10:1, then the output torque is 410 lb-ft (100x4.10). Similarly, if the gear ratio is 3.08:1, then the output torque will be 308 lb-ft. It's easy to see that the lower 4.10:1 gears put more power to the ground than the higher 3.08:1 gears. Keep in mind that the engine's power has not changed but that the available torque to the tires has.

C apish?

another thing, swapping gears do not effect dyno numbers..

Dude dyno numbers don't mean squat... ain't nuttin but a number ive seen 500hp cars walk 600hp cars and besides where that vipers dyno numbers SAE corrected?
he might of been on a "happy dyno"

victory2k8z wrote:

V6Chris wrote:

victory2k8z wrote:

Here is another one the gearing on the viper SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Z06 has a taller final drive

Viper:

Tremec TR6060 6-Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.07:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.66:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.78:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.3:1
4th Gear Ratio 1:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.74:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.5:1

Z06:

Tremec 6 Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.42:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.66:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.78:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.3:1
4th Gear Ratio 1:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.74:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.5:1

as much as i hate that dude....what you just said isnt correct bro.
if the above is true the Viper should have a more top end...Depending on where each car redlines
if the both redline at 7rpms and the Z06 in fourth gear can do 170mph that viper should be able to do about 190 at 7000rpms
WITH SAME SIZE TIRE

go down to the gear calculator

The viper has the gear to achive a higer top end, yet there is alot more to it...weight, aero, power band, tire diameter...all these factors make a difference

actually with those type of cars its really just power and RPM ban...if the viper only revs out to 6000rpms...then in 4th gear that viper is only going to do about 145....assuming with a 28in tire..
The viper is pretty aero

I understand what you're saying, I'am just stating that the vipers gearing really is the same as the z06 if not better built for top end. just the viper does not rev out has high


Chevy > Mopar

victory2k8z wrote:

V6Chris wrote:

victory2k8z wrote:

NorySS wrote:

when you say TALLER, people refer to the fact that the actual gear is bigger physically.

whe the gear is bigger, it is NUMBERICALLY SMALLER.

So, the viper will stay in the gear longer/per REV than the z06.

In addition to changing the direction of power flow by 90 degrees (from the driveshaft to the axles), the purpose of the rearend gears is to multiply the torque delivered by the engine and transmission. Gears can be thought of as complex levers. In other words, they provide a mechanical advantage that multiplies work--in this case, torque--to help the engine's power move the vehicle. Lower gears are like a longer lever: They provide more mechanical advantage. Higher gears are like a shorter lever: They provide less mechanical advantage. It's similar to when you use a long breaker bar instead of a short ratchet handle to remove tight lug nuts. Just like a long bar puts more torque on a lug nut, lower axle gears provide more torque to the wheels.

It's very easy to calculate the torque multiplication provided by your axle gears--just multiply by the gear ratio. For example, let's assume that the engine and transmission are delivering 100 lb-ft of torque to the pinion gear. If the gear ratio of the ring-and-pinion is 4.10:1, then the output torque is 410 lb-ft (100x4.10). Similarly, if the gear ratio is 3.08:1, then the output torque will be 308 lb-ft. It's easy to see that the lower 4.10:1 gears put more power to the ground than the higher 3.08:1 gears. Keep in mind that the engine's power has not changed but that the available torque to the tires has.

C apish?

another thing, swapping gears do not effect dyno numbers..

Dude dyno numbers don't mean squat... ain't nuttin but a number ive seen 500hp cars walk 600hp cars and besides where that vipers dyno numbers SAE corrected?
he might of been on a "happy dyno"

everything I'am saying is going over your head man. I said nothing about dyno numbers being important. because a 350whp fox can run 11.00s but a 440whp z06 is going to run 11.1s.....
100whp difference...
I said swapping gear ratios do not effect dyno numbers...in no way did i say dyno numbers mean anything...

victory2k8z wrote:

Slow Vette wrote:

maybe i should post up this vid on viperalley and see what they say...

NITROUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS they will scream it from the mountain tops

well lets find out

V6Chris wrote:

victory2k8z wrote:

V6Chris wrote:

victory2k8z wrote:

Here is another one the gearing on the viper SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Z06 has a taller final drive

Viper:

Tremec TR6060 6-Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.07:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.66:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.78:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.3:1
4th Gear Ratio 1:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.74:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.5:1

Z06:

Tremec 6 Speed Manual
Final Drive 3.42:1
1st Gear Ratio 2.66:1
2nd Gear Ratio 1.78:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.3:1
4th Gear Ratio 1:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.74:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.5:1

as much as i hate that dude....what you just said isnt correct bro.
if the above is true the Viper should have a more top end...Depending on where each car redlines
if the both redline at 7rpms and the Z06 in fourth gear can do 170mph that viper should be able to do about 190 at 7000rpms
WITH SAME SIZE TIRE

go down to the gear calculator

The viper has the gear to achive a higer top end, yet there is alot more to it...weight, aero, power band, tire diameter...all these factors make a difference

actually with those type of cars its really just power and RPM ban...if the viper only revs out to 6000rpms...then in 4th gear that viper is only going to do about 145....assuming with a 28in tire..
The viper is pretty aero

I understand what you're saying, I'am just stating that the vipers gearing really is the same as the z06 if not better built for top end. just the viper does not rev out has high


Chevy > Mopar

Not disputing this you are correct, yet the Z will produce more torque due to the taller gear...all things being equall the vette will achive its top speed faster yet the viper will yeld a higher top end speed (hence 195mph vs 202mph)

Let me some everything up
Titos car is not on spray point blank. his car hood was open 10-12 or later. for all the shit tlakers next time take a look before you talk shit.

as far as the gear debate
viper has a better top end final drive gear...tranny gearing is the same
BUT the viper doesnt rev out as high...a full 1000rpms less
because of this the gearing actually doesnt work out as well
Any car with a 3.08 gear that dynos 400rwhp...if they swapped gears to a 4.11 gear...they will then dyno 400rwhp again...like wise with torque...
swapping gears doesnt effect dyno numbers. just feels like you have more torque, but you techinqually are not putting down more torque to the ground


Horsepower doesnt mean much.

victory2k8z wrote:

NorySS wrote:

when you say TALLER, people refer to the fact that the actual gear is bigger physically.

whe the gear is bigger, it is NUMBERICALLY SMALLER.

So, the viper will stay in the gear longer/per REV than the z06.

In addition to changing the direction of power flow by 90 degrees (from the driveshaft to the axles), the purpose of the rearend gears is to multiply the torque delivered by the engine and transmission. Gears can be thought of as complex levers. In other words, they provide a mechanical advantage that multiplies work--in this case, torque--to help the engine's power move the vehicle. Lower gears are like a longer lever: They provide more mechanical advantage. Higher gears are like a shorter lever: They provide less mechanical advantage. It's similar to when you use a long breaker bar instead of a short ratchet handle to remove tight lug nuts. Just like a long bar puts more torque on a lug nut, lower axle gears provide more torque to the wheels.

It's very easy to calculate the torque multiplication provided by your axle gears--just multiply by the gear ratio. For example, let's assume that the engine and transmission are delivering 100 lb-ft of torque to the pinion gear. If the gear ratio of the ring-and-pinion is 4.10:1, then the output torque is 410 lb-ft (100x4.10). Similarly, if the gear ratio is 3.08:1, then the output torque will be 308 lb-ft. It's easy to see that the lower 4.10:1 gears put more power to the ground than the higher 3.08:1 gears. Keep in mind that the engine's power has not changed but that the available torque to the tires has.

C apish?

I srsly can't believe you wrote Capish.

You didn't understand why I wrote my post.

Plz stop posting this material like its your own w.o giving credit.

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NorySS wrote:

victory2k8z wrote:

NorySS wrote:

when you say TALLER, people refer to the fact that the actual gear is bigger physically.

whe the gear is bigger, it is NUMBERICALLY SMALLER.

So, the viper will stay in the gear longer/per REV than the z06.

In addition to changing the direction of power flow by 90 degrees (from the driveshaft to the axles), the purpose of the rearend gears is to multiply the torque delivered by the engine and transmission. Gears can be thought of as complex levers. In other words, they provide a mechanical advantage that multiplies work--in this case, torque--to help the engine's power move the vehicle. Lower gears are like a longer lever: They provide more mechanical advantage. Higher gears are like a shorter lever: They provide less mechanical advantage. It's similar to when you use a long breaker bar instead of a short ratchet handle to remove tight lug nuts. Just like a long bar puts more torque on a lug nut, lower axle gears provide more torque to the wheels.

It's very easy to calculate the torque multiplication provided by your axle gears--just multiply by the gear ratio. For example, let's assume that the engine and transmission are delivering 100 lb-ft of torque to the pinion gear. If the gear ratio of the ring-and-pinion is 4.10:1, then the output torque is 410 lb-ft (100x4.10). Similarly, if the gear ratio is 3.08:1, then the output torque will be 308 lb-ft. It's easy to see that the lower 4.10:1 gears put more power to the ground than the higher 3.08:1 gears. Keep in mind that the engine's power has not changed but that the available torque to the tires has.

C apish?

I srsly can't believe you wrote Capish.

You didn't understand why I wrote my post.

Plz stop posting this material like its your own w.o giving credit.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] 4th paragraph.

damn thats basically word for word...reps for Nory on the find

NorySS wrote:

victory2k8z wrote:

NorySS wrote:

when you say TALLER, people refer to the fact that the actual gear is bigger physically.

whe the gear is bigger, it is NUMBERICALLY SMALLER.

So, the viper will stay in the gear longer/per REV than the z06.

In addition to changing the direction of power flow by 90 degrees (from the driveshaft to the axles), the purpose of the rearend gears is to multiply the torque delivered by the engine and transmission. Gears can be thought of as complex levers. In other words, they provide a mechanical advantage that multiplies work--in this case, torque--to help the engine's power move the vehicle. Lower gears are like a longer lever: They provide more mechanical advantage. Higher gears are like a shorter lever: They provide less mechanical advantage. It's similar to when you use a long breaker bar instead of a short ratchet handle to remove tight lug nuts. Just like a long bar puts more torque on a lug nut, lower axle gears provide more torque to the wheels.

It's very easy to calculate the torque multiplication provided by your axle gears--just multiply by the gear ratio. For example, let's assume that the engine and transmission are delivering 100 lb-ft of torque to the pinion gear. If the gear ratio of the ring-and-pinion is 4.10:1, then the output torque is 410 lb-ft (100x4.10). Similarly, if the gear ratio is 3.08:1, then the output torque will be 308 lb-ft. It's easy to see that the lower 4.10:1 gears put more power to the ground than the higher 3.08:1 gears. Keep in mind that the engine's power has not changed but that the available torque to the tires has.

C apish?

I srsly can't believe you wrote Capish.

You didn't understand why I wrote my post.

Plz stop posting this material like its your own w.o giving credit.

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Are you kidding me, did i state it was my own Ill make sure to caption and credit the author in future posts!

Just trying to get my point across without typing the bible

V6Chris wrote:

NorySS wrote:

victory2k8z wrote:

NorySS wrote:

when you say TALLER, people refer to the fact that the actual gear is bigger physically.

whe the gear is bigger, it is NUMBERICALLY SMALLER.

So, the viper will stay in the gear longer/per REV than the z06.

In addition to changing the direction of power flow by 90 degrees (from the driveshaft to the axles), the purpose of the rearend gears is to multiply the torque delivered by the engine and transmission. Gears can be thought of as complex levers. In other words, they provide a mechanical advantage that multiplies work--in this case, torque--to help the engine's power move the vehicle. Lower gears are like a longer lever: They provide more mechanical advantage. Higher gears are like a shorter lever: They provide less mechanical advantage. It's similar to when you use a long breaker bar instead of a short ratchet handle to remove tight lug nuts. Just like a long bar puts more torque on a lug nut, lower axle gears provide more torque to the wheels.

It's very easy to calculate the torque multiplication provided by your axle gears--just multiply by the gear ratio. For example, let's assume that the engine and transmission are delivering 100 lb-ft of torque to the pinion gear. If the gear ratio of the ring-and-pinion is 4.10:1, then the output torque is 410 lb-ft (100x4.10). Similarly, if the gear ratio is 3.08:1, then the output torque will be 308 lb-ft. It's easy to see that the lower 4.10:1 gears put more power to the ground than the higher 3.08:1 gears. Keep in mind that the engine's power has not changed but that the available torque to the tires has.

C apish?

I srsly can't believe you wrote Capish.

You didn't understand why I wrote my post.

Plz stop posting this material like its your own w.o giving credit.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] 4th paragraph.

damn thats basically word for word...reps for Nory on the find

Its a feature in windows called copy and paste...see below for reference

LthlGT500 wrote:

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Where did u get that avitar.....

Good run Tito!