CALLING OUT ARBONDIGA'S COBRA

Steedafied wrote:

Wow, that fuckin BLOWS.

Now, about LSx motors, it's not that they're weak, it's simply that most LSx motors are high compression. High compression and boost aren't good friends when ran on regular pump gas. A tiny tiny slip up in tuning, and BOOM. There's almost no room for error on such a high compression motor when boost is added. This is the beauty of the GT500 and 03/04 Cobra motors. 8.5:1 compression and forged bottom end from factory. Built for a shitload of boost and power. I've seen stock Cobra's making 900rwhp and still running strong.

Was Joel at least running meth?

rong.

Usually what goes wrong with LSx is the ring lands. Just like the 03-04 cobra.
Your also comparing a forged internals vs cast.

And finally, Tuning is not difficult.

Joel I know What happened the Fuel Pressure when down that's Why you let off Right>? NO Excuse to you lossing to albondiga, I just Wanted to know What happened. I can see that you were Catching up lil be.. But when you shifted to 4Th the car felt back a lil be.. I told you Joel Get a Predator you need more timing and Race gas that's all.



Yes 03Terminator Luis still my son right now, he knows he can't touch my car the way his car its running right now>> by the time he comes out with his soon be 10,000 RWHP at 40,000PSI Vette>> I'll be making 20,000RWHP on my car..

So Luis Bring it on.. I'll be ready for Saturday night.

Z51JOEL wrote:

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Joel The image Its TOTAL FAIL Brother TRY Again. lol


And now you want to say that you almost Had me>? you never had me you never had your car>> Now I have to Replace All the pistons rings you Fried..

no methanol and he did not blow and that car has been sprayed 50 times with a 200 shot before and still stock internals[/quote]



Luis I can read your mind all they From here:>> I am not in the side of cavemans or any of them just to make that clear in here>> But Yes I am in the side of the 03/04 cobras because I own One myself>> SO Luis what happened I thought Cobras didn't run faster then Vettes LOL... OR its just mine that doesn't run right>?


( Tipical question For Ford Haters.)

Frank lol i never said they were parked i owned oned a 04 myself before the vette and you know it and yes the one i said was parked its yours!cus its been proven befor stock ported blowers and bolt ons have parked ur kenne bell 40 psi 300 shot cobra before!(RYAN)and no im not impress no offense to caveman that cobra was sprayed to the dick making close to 800rwtq and the vette is just at 10 psi with a sliping belt and no methanol so the vette will beat it and no joel didnt loose if u look at the video he was half a car in fron before he blew and thats when he stopped !!and thats why we started arguing yesterday but w.e is over he will come for u frank be prepared

TheCrusherCobra wrote:

Z51JOEL wrote:

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Joel The image Its TOTAL FAIL Brother TRY Again. lol


And now you want to say that you almost Had me>? you never had me you never had your car>> Now I have to Replace All the pistons rings you Fried..

03terminator wrote:

frank olvidate de joel por ahora al que hace falta que pongas ha bailar la bamba es a la mamba...
Frank forget about joel for now and concentrate on putting the black mamba to dance la bamba

the black mamba will be ready for ur slowbra too

Hey Joel good race men and u know something that i can help u let me know bro los 2 carros caminaron despingante yo lo admito estan rapidos

Juan@Caveman wrote:

Hey Joel good race men and u know something that i can help u let me know bro los 2 carros caminaron despingante yo lo admito estan rapidos

gracias carlos el cobrita esta de pinga. translation. caveman said: hey joel good race if you need something i can help let me know both cars ran fucken hard i admit you guys are fast. i said thanks carlos the cobra is fucken moving

NorySS wrote:

Steedafied wrote:

Wow, that fuckin BLOWS.

Now, about LSx motors, it's not that they're weak, it's simply that most LSx motors are high compression. High compression and boost aren't good friends when ran on regular pump gas. A tiny tiny slip up in tuning, and BOOM. There's almost no room for error on such a high compression motor when boost is added. This is the beauty of the GT500 and 03/04 Cobra motors. 8.5:1 compression and forged bottom end from factory. Built for a shitload of boost and power. I've seen stock Cobra's making 900rwhp and still running strong.

Was Joel at least running meth?

rong.

Usually what goes wrong with LSx is the ring lands. Just like the 03-04 cobra.
Your also comparing a forged internals vs cast.

And finally, Tuning is not difficult.

I'm not gonna say your wrong, but you're not 100% correct either. Although forged internals can take more of a beating than cast internals, detonation will most certainly destroy both. And that is what happens when you try to run too much boost on a high compression application. Also, as a tuner, you can try to control or reduce that detonation to a certain extent, but the margin of safety is GREATLY reduced. This isn't some type of theory I just created, it's proven fact.

TheCrusherCobra wrote:

TheCrusherCobra wrote:

Z51JOEL wrote:

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Joel The image Its TOTAL FAIL Brother TRY Again. lol




And now you want to say that you almost Had me>? you never had me you never had your car>> Now I have to Replace All the pistons rings you Fried..

your a clown frank good one lmao

Ring lands are small on the 03/04 as well as the LSx motors.

They crack/fail because of the pressure. Most aftermarket pistons don't have that small of a ring land, thats why they have deep domes to compensate.

NorySS wrote:

b18chatch06 wrote:

sounds like who ever tuned the car didnt do a good job. what was used to tune the car?

Frank toons his own cars.

i meant joels car..what software does he have?

NorySS wrote:

Ring lands are small on the 03/04 as well as the LSx motors.

They crack/fail because of the pressure. Most aftermarket pistons don't have that small of a ring land, thats why they have deep domes to compensate.

True, but in most cases, the cause of failure leans greatly more towards the compression ratio being so high rather than the ring lands. For example:

The LS3, at 10.7:1 compression is practically a ticking time bomb with 10lbs and zero meth on pump gas. Regardless of how big or small the ring lands are.

On the other hand,

The 03/04 Cobra motor, even if the internals weren't forged, would take 10lbs+ and stay together for a long, long time, just because of the low 8.5:1 compression ratio, regardless of ring land size.

Of course, this is considering both cars are tuned appropriately.

sophisticated shit no entiendo ni pinga lol lol lol

Most decent running boosted cars are running higher comp than 'conventional'.

Compression ratio is just a number most people know.

What really matters is the dynamic compression, which is governed by the cam. If you can keep the dynamic compression down, you can boost whatever you want on a 11:1 compression engine.

Heck, I run 10.5:1 compression with over 25psi on a honda. The motor has been together for over 4-5 years.

Why do you think all the 'old school' muscle car guys run so blazing fast with 9.x compression ALL MOTOR? No Fancy 10 or11:1 compression.

The real reason why you DO NOT want to do a LOT boost an LS3/L92 head combo, is because SUPPOSEDLY, the deck height on the head is shallow, and causes the gaskets to stop sealing. But again, this is supposedly happening on 800HP+ setups.

The keys to keep ANY MOTOR together are:

Avoiding Knock, excess timing
Proper Oiling

As my friend Big Al says 'Blocks only hold oil'.

albondiga wrote:

sophisticated shit no entiendo ni pinga lol lol lol

ESTAN HABLANDO DE LOS AROS,PISTONES Y ALTA COMPRESSION DEL CARO. I JUST LET HIM KNOW WHAT NORRY AND STEDA ARE TALKING ABOUT

And for shit talking notes:

I would be very surprised if Joel blew anything on his motor. 14 degrees makes any LSx a damn pig, even with boost.

Once you get that car fully tuned, it will really rip.

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Franks next car after he gets raped by Z51JOEL!...

NorySS wrote:

The keys to keep ANY MOTOR together are:

Avoiding Knock, excess timing
Proper Oiling

As my friend Big Al says 'Blocks only hold oil'.

That pretty much covers it.

NorySS wrote:

Most decent running boosted cars are running higher comp than 'conventional'.

Compression ratio is just a number most people know.

What really matters is the dynamic compression, which is governed by the cam. If you can keep the dynamic compression down, you can boost whatever you want on a 11:1 compression engine.

Heck, I run 10.5:1 compression with over 25psi on a honda. The motor has been together for over 4-5 years.

Why do you think all the 'old school' muscle car guys run so blazing fast with 9.x compression ALL MOTOR? No Fancy 10 or11:1 compression.

The real reason why you DO NOT want to do a LOT boost an LS3/L92 head combo, is because SUPPOSEDLY, the deck height on the head is shallow, and causes the gaskets to stop sealing. But again, this is supposedly happening on 800HP+ setups.

This is also true. But dynamic compression is limited to how much compression you can "bleed off" with cams. This still won't compensate for higher pressures in the cylinders and the need for better head studs to avoid lifting the heads. I rather be a bit more on the safe side and run a lower compression + higher boost combo, rather than higher compression + lower boost, especially on daily driven street cars. Although it's been proven that high compression + high boost cars run hard as fuck, most of those cars are running high octane fuels and aren't too daily driver/street friendly.

Either way it's nice to finally have a technical discussion with someone on here lol.

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